Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 26 June 2024

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection

Public Service Performance Report: Discussion

9:30 am

Mr. Kenneth Jordan:

The Deputy's point could be argued. The people who put all of this together would probably feel the same. I have one point to make. It is not compulsory for Departments to include the indicators in the REV in annual reports. As I have said, we will be publishing that in two or three weeks' time and it will include all of the indicators in the REV. You will be able to see the likes of the island stuff. I have worked in finance and in programme delivery and I know that things must be measured at a high level. When this Department was first established, we did not have most of these schemes and we had much lower levels of funding. Fundamentally, we have to be able say that we are actually achieving the expenditure we need to achieve and producing the number of projects we need to produce and that SICAP and CSP are making an impact. If we could not say that, I am not sure I could stand over the spend we have or any increase in that spend. That may be a different philosophy.

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