Mr. Kenneth Jordan:

In our discussions with the CCMA on the idea of having these capital delivery teams, we have reached a point at this stage of being very flexible about where they see their priorities. A number of them have raised the issue of community engagement. They have raised the issue of the people who are in the communities doing this work often being much older people, with no new cohort of younger people coming in to take over that role. There is an element in that plan where the local authorities see. As the Cathaoirleach said, it is through the local authorities. In one way they are the people we feel are generating the projects on scale with the likes of the RRDF. That is one point on community.

Regarding the disadvantaged urban communities, the Minister of State, Deputy Joe O'Brien, has established the empowering communities programme and the community development programme. One is locally based, targeting specific areas, and the other is actually based on cohorts of people such as Travellers or Roma. They started out as pilots. We have increased the funding to them last year and this year.

They are probably the seed of what the Chair is getting at - the idea that there are people who can actually engage with communities and get those ideas across the line. As the Chair said, maybe on the urban side, we are not in as good a place as I feel we are on the rural side. I do not know-----