Paul Gavan (Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I thank Dr. McGann. It has taken the witnesses six minutes to acknowledge that but I welcome that Dr. McGann has said pay is a factor.

I will tell the witnesses my experience of dealing with private sector pay providers. They refuse to recognise trade unions. They sack people who become active in trade unions rather than deal with them. If you take the private nursing home sector, I would struggle to name more than one nursing home that actually recognises trade unions. This begs the question: how are workers in this sector actually supposed to negotiate a pay rise?