Richard Bruton (Dublin Bay North, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

I would have thought that was relatively low-hanging fruit, and that we would not need a strategy to start to tighten some of those matters.

I want to ask about the green procurement baseline. Reading what Ms Kiely said will come out of this, the only sector she seemed to be firm about was ICT. It struck me that it is probably happening anyhow. It is not a stretch target that by 2025 a minimum of 80% ICT would be certified to have a certain amount of reused content. It seems a very low baseline for something that is trumpeted as a green procurement strategy that we do not have targets around the use of certain materials in construction in terms of a whole-of-life assessment so that disposal is taken into account. As of today, is this green procurement strategy making a real difference? What is the Department benchmarking in terms of where we are today versus where we need to be in 2027? It strikes me that the Department of the Environment, Climate and Communications is a step away from the action. Why is the Department of Public Expenditure, National Development Plan Delivery and Reform, which holds the purse strings, the one that is driving and insisting on green procurement? I would like to know that the approach has teeth: that there is a baseline, which the Department is monitoring, and that people who ignore the guidelines are brought to heel in some way in their procurement approach.