Mr. Terence O'Rourke:

No. The Senator can ask colleagues in either organisation at the moment and I think they will say that they are seeing enough of me and not too much of me, I hope. As a non-executive chair, I am not involved in the day-to-day weeds and stuff. It is a matter of making sure that the board is operating and that the oversight of management is happening in both organisations. I am happy that I am able to do both of those things.