Professor Matthew Sadlier:

We are part of the group that delivers the service. I know the previous speaker mentioned that we referenced politicians. We reference politicians because they are the people who make the promises to the public. Politicians say "we are going to deliver you a free at the point of healthcare service" and we have to deliver that on those promises but if we are not given the resources, ability, beds and structure to deliver the promises, we do not make the promises. We are the delivery service. Obviously, we have a view on certain aspects of it and that is where I come back to-----