Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 16 May 2024

Public Accounts Committee

2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Office of Minister for Education

9:30 am

Ms Bernie McNally:

We are working very closely with the Department of children and integration and the CSO. There is what is called "signs of life" that looks constantly at whether people are still in the jurisdiction. We have a good sense of it. This is why we can genuinely say that 95% of Ukrainian school-age children are in school at any one time. We have not seen a large amount of mobility to date. Some of them may go back. Deputy Ó Cathasaigh mentioned a class size of 25. I just want to correct him that we have reduced this to 23. Are we planning that some of these may be freed up? Yes, we have a statistician seconded to us from the Central Statistics Office who works with us on teacher supply and many other issues. This is absolutely a consideration. We are also considering a possible migration of other nationalities, such as Irish people coming back to have families here. There are other levels of migration. We try to factor this in. Clearly it is not an exact science and there is a lot of estimation.

Earlier Deputy Ó Cathasaigh mentioned special educational needs. We are planning for continued high needs in special education and prevalence rates.

We envisage that lots of teachers will be needed for the foreseeable future.

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