Mr. Fintan Hourihan:

We accept that there is a serious problem. We see that there is an onus on the association as well as the Minister. This problem will need a two-stage approach. First, an interim solution is needed to stop the worsening of the situation. Second, a longer term solution is needed, which would be a very different scheme. The Deputy may be aware that we have proposed a different model. In recent times, as we are prohibited by competition law from compelling members to sign up to State schemes, we have suggested to the HSE and the Department of Health that as an interim measure that we would discuss an emergency scheme where care would be provided in HSE clinics in the evenings and on weekends on a voluntary basis by both public and private dentists. We have had a few meetings with the HSE and the Department, and we are due to have a further meeting on that specific issue.

To concur with Mr. O'Flynn, I see a change in the level of interest of and engagement by senior officials in the Department. I acknowledge that. I hope that means we will now see something come out of it. On the specifics, there is a serious problem with the DTSS. It needs to be completely replaced. We do not see it as a viable scheme. We have said an interim scheme through HSE clinics where there is capacity in the evenings should be considered and we have put forward proposals to that effect. Ultimately, however, it will require the Minister to direct his officials to talk to us about a new scheme. That has not happened so far. I acknowledge the officials are more engaged. I hope that means talks will start sooner rather than later.