Mr. S?amus Dooley:

The issue the Senator raised is one of the issues we raised with the expert group on HR. We spent a considerable amount of time on it. I share the Senator's concern about some of the issues he raised. They are deeply disturbing. One of the big failures of the Evershed Sutherland review process was that RTÉ did not include in the review so-called on-air talent. The word "talent" is not used any more. The Senator is right that there is no justification for it. Public service broadcasting should set the gold standard. In holding everyone else to account, it needs to do so.