Mr. Stephen Millane:

Irish Rail and Luas have private security. Dublin Bus relies on An Garda Síochána. Someone might get on a bus coming into town and cause problems on the bus and cause hassle for the driver and passengers. They might then get on a Luas to Heuston Station and cause the same problem. They might have interaction with the security personnel on the Luas and then get on a train. There needs to be a central transport police body. TFI and the NTA want Leap cards that allow people to get on any mode of transport, whether train, Luas or bus. They want it to be uniform but the kind of transport police unit we are looking for will cover those, so they are interlinked and interconnected. At the moment, the system is fragmented. They are individual companies and services. Unless they are entwined to deal with the perpetrators - the 1%, as Mr. Wynne said - there is no deterrence. It would mean that if I cause trouble on Dublin Bus, the company would be in contact with the Luas and Irish Rail, so there would be a record.