Mr. Hugh Farrell:

I thank Senator Garvey for her questions and interest and for being here with us today. She covered a lot of stuff there. I welcome her passion. That is what we want to hear. However, we are limited in what we can discuss today. The biggest stumbling block is the use of gross income. We need to get that removed and replaced with net income, which is what is in the farmer's pocket. That is all that matters at the end of the day. We have farmers who cannot buy fodder at the minute. They are stuck for money and they have no source of getting it because-----