Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Monday, 8 April 2024

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Disability Matters

Role of Disabled Persons Organisations and Self Advocacy in Providing Equal Opportunities under the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities Implementation: Discussion

Ms Donna Baker:

I thank the Cathaoirleach and members of the committee for this invitation. This opening statement is with reference to the question "How have your human rights been supported?" Ireland has clearly demonstrated its responsibility on an international level by signing up to the UNCRPD, a human rights treaty for people with disabilities. Although this is ultimately progress, it is still not enough.

I am a self-advocate but am also a member of a support group called Amputee Ireland and Beyond. I have a limb impairment - lower right arm - so I am talking about my own experience, but also I will refer to the experiences of eight participants interviewed for my Master’s degree thesis entitled "The impact of Irish national and international Health policies [including the UNCRPD] and services on the quality of life of amputees and those with limb impairments in Ireland". I feel that having a disability and being a disabled researcher adds value and experience to my research. Being disabled is special. We get to see a very different side to humanity. This should be valued as insightful and beneficial.

Traditionally, disability was not regarded as a human rights issue. It was seen as a medical issue requiring medical solutions and for support through welfare and charity for those who cannot be cured or corrected. It is hoped that this is no longer the approach we have towards disability and that, at last, modern legislation will hopefully take us away from historical harms and discrimination.

I no longer wear a prosthetic but I have done so in the past. Most of my life has been spent in the UK. Access to prosthetic healthcare in the UK was through the NHS, which was of a high standard in my experience. Accessing prosthetics for anything - any sport, and any hobby - was easy. They would happily make a prosthetic if it meant you could enjoy life more. I was not aware of the difficulty in accessing services and prosthetics in Ireland with all of the processes and necessary approval from resource management boards, especially for leisure activities. I applied for a prosthetic for violin playing but was not successful based on a policy which refers to "prosthesis for everyday mobility use only". If it is not for daily use, it is not seen as worthwhile. Leisure activities are not seen as necessary unless you fund the prosthetic yourself.

The WHO might disagree because it has asserted that assistive technology is more of a right and stated:

Assistive technology is also a means by which to exercise human rights. The UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities recognizes this [in Articles 2 and 20]. It requires states to provide necessary assistive technology to enable people with disabilities to exercise their rights to education, work, leisure, participation in the cultural life of the community etc., and freedoms of opinion and expression.

This quote came from the Global Report on Assistive Technology. This report has ten great recommendations to improve assistive technology systems, encourages universal health coverage and would aid in supporting the UNCRPD.

My masters focused specifically on the health service and the importance of support and assistance, including the need for the assistive technology required by many amputees and those with limb impairments. The Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission points out that "While discrimination reported by people without disabilities is most likely to occur in the labour market, discrimination reported by people with disabilities is most likely to be in accessing health services" and the discrimination they experience is likely to have had "serious or very serious effects on them compared to those with no disability".

The impact of not being able to access services quickly and efficiently is massively impacting amputees and those with limb impairments. It is not the case that everything is terrible or awful. Some of the participants I interviewed had good experiences. However, there is no one standard, "no national standards that apply to the provision of services to people who have had amputations" and no national statistics are compiled, as recommended by the UNCRPD, something which would aid improvements.

Many discussions were had about the endless bureaucracy experienced within the various Departments and health services when trying to access treatment abroad schemes, primary health certificates, prosthetics and aids and even when trying to get blue badges for arm amputees. In referring to the HSE, one participant said "I mean it's like, you know, the HSE take your independence and your freedom and put it in a box and throw away the key". Another referred to the lack of support, saying:

There is no one, what’s the word I’m looking for, there is no one to contact. If I have a problem with something. There's no one there, like a shoulder to cry on or [...] a favourite voice or something [There is just] nowhere to go

On applying for prosthetics through a resource allocation board and waiting long periods while experiencing blisters and pain, one participant said "The HSE for four months has refused because in their opinion I have a leg that is semi-functional, why does it need to be changed." There are quite a few references to a wall of silence, feeling like a second thought and the use of the word "backwards" with regard to the HSE, feelings of isolation and a lack of independence when it comes to accessing services or getting services that actually benefit the patient holistically, that is, services that do not merely tick boxes.

I am unsure whether I have answered the committee's question fully. I would like to suggest that this service has the potential to be excellent if the system was more centralised. What if you could register your disability, especially when the disability is physical, for example, an amputation, and then use the registration to access all the other Departments and schemes, such as the blue badge and medical card, easily?

I understand there is a great list of goals under the National Disability Inclusion Strategy 2017-2021. The strategy states: "We will work together to ensure joined up public services for persons with disabilities." This goal will be of great assistance in further supporting human rights and access to good public services in Ireland. The sociologist Max Weber warned of "the possibilities of bureaucracies becoming an ‘iron cage’ in which individuals find their freedom of action constrained and their activities over-regulated by rigid procedure". This can only delay the potential of the UNCRPD. I thank the committee for listening.

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