Cian O'Callaghan (Dublin Bay North, Social Democrats) | Oireachtas source

But a minute ago, the Minister of State said he was not even aware that these meetings took place. They are in the lobbying register, so they did take place. If the Minister of State is not aware that the meetings took place, how can he tell us that there was no lobbying in relation to this? If he did not know that the meetings took place, then he does not know what took place in those meetings.