Mr. Bernard Gloster:

The total of just short of 146,000 whole-time equivalents at the end of last year relates directly to the HSE, section 38 hospitals and the larger disability organisations. It does not relate to section 39 organisations. The number relates to just section 38 and HSE staff, in other words, the staff who are considered to be public servants. The number of staff in section 39 organisations is bigger. Ms Hoey might be able to add to what I have said.