Ms Derval McDonagh:

We must bring it back to who is the rights holder and, in this instance, it is the child and that child does not exist in a vacuum, they exist in the context of their family. If we were designing therapeutic services and supports it would be about integrating the care and support that the child needs across home, community and school. Right now what we have are very fragmented services and supports; we have he HSE doing one piece and we have the SIM model in schools, which is still bring run on a pilot level, even though I know that that is being evaluated at the moment doing another. We also have patchy access to CAMHS and other community supports and again, this has to come back to who is the rights holder here and how we integrate supports around that child. Indeed as the Cathaoirleach has rightly said, we must include the family as part of that and meet the needs of the family where they are at and develop services and supports where the child is at.