Brian Stanley (Laois-Offaly, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I just wanted to get a picture of what is happening there. Tusla's budget has increased this year to about €1.1 billion. That gives it capacity. The balance of admin, management and front-line staff has been covered. The witnesses have explained why they are using admin in some cases to supplement and support people on the front line and carry some of the workload. Is it the case that the HSE is poaching staff? Are many social workers moving over to the HSE?