Verona Murphy (Wexford, Independent) | Oireachtas source

What do you mean? I am sorry but, in fairness, I put something very simple to Ms Duggan. I said that I engaged with Tusla as well as with the HSE. There seems to be an awful problem whereby, when they come together, it is nobody's business. Tusla can say it is a matter for the HSE, as Ms Duggan just did, and the HSE can say it is a matter for Tusla.