Marc Ó Cathasaigh (Waterford, Green Party) | Oireachtas source

A phrase that I found in the documentation, which I boked at quite honestly, is "private, for-profit sector providers". The idea of "for-profit" when it comes to some of our most vulnerable children sticks in my craw. It has been said that we have this objective to flip the ratio in terms of public and private provision but I am not seeing residential unit places coming. I have seen a reduction since 2014. Since Tusla has been formed, we have five fewer residential units and I have seen a massive spike in private money. Can Ms Duggan explain whether the massive spike means more placements or - and I hate using this phrase - higher cost per child within those placements?