Catherine Murphy (Kildare North, Social Democrats) | Oireachtas source

In regard to the family resource centres, very quickly, I had a look at the map. I am not familiar with family resource centres because there is not one in my constituency. Yet it is a constituency with high levels of growth and the age profile is very young. That is similar to the likes of County Meath, Fingal or south Dublin. I was looking at the spread and it does not seem to grow at all with the demand. It is what you have, you hold. Essentially, the areas that have the highest number of young families are the ones where there is least cover in terms of care, which is absolutely bonkers. Then you talk about the follow-on problems and I look at the same issues in relation to my community healthcare organisation, CHO 7, which is the one I am most familiar with. I look at the deficiency of care and I can think of one particular family off the top of my head where you would have to step in because there simply were not services. There was a brass plate with the name of the agency, the children's disability network team, but essentially for people with the most extreme requirements, where there were very serious behavioural issues, there was no option but to take the children into care. The failure there was, they were told to come back in a year's time. The thing about it is, there is a stupidity in how funding is happening.

Will Ms Duggan tell us how we can get that cross-agency approach? The big failure will be predominantly between Tusla and the HSE.