Mr. Jerry Mac Evilly:

Deputy Ó Cuív made a few points and I thank him very much for the questions. On the issue of labour and the availability of installers, as Ms O'Connor said it is an issue across the board. Part of what we are faced with now is prioritisation and targeting. This is the real issue that we are being faced with and need to deal with. This is relevant when it comes to social authority housing because, as Ms O'Connor said, there is an opportunity to deal with them in some way, shape or form as a block given they are of the same type of housing. It also relates to trust. Trust is very important because, naturally, there might be a lack of trust in certain cases, whether it is with regard to inspections or external people coming in and looking at homes. This is where we need what we spoke about previously with regard to community liaison officers, energy advisers and those working directly on poverty and hardship to provide this advice.

With regard to whether older people are willing to focus on this given they are at a different stage of their life, it is a very fair question and a very fair point. Anecdotally we have come across this but we do not have data on it. We have a fantastic partnership with Bohemians to generate community ideas for the roll-out of retrofitting, which we launched last week.

It is the case that older people fully understand this and, while I am obviously generalising, it is not the case that there is opposition in any sense. Rather, given the stage of their lives, they might not see the benefit of a retrofit or a heat pump. That is entirely understandable.

There is another point I wish to address. Ms O’Connor may also have some comments to make on it. The Deputy mentioned a specific scheme. Was it the HAOC scheme?