Ms Angela Ward:

I would like to make a comment. This is the third meeting of the committee at which we have said that IS 465 is flawed and not fit for purpose. How many times do we need to do this before change is made? A comment by Damien Owens of Engineers Ireland to the committee in 2022 really struck me. He said that until all the research is there, none of the research is there. We have a good deal of research. Government cannot disclaim responsibility anymore. IS 465 is not fit for purpose. As much as they would like to pretend it does not exist, it does.