Professor Brian MacCraith:

I thank the Deputy for her positive comments, which we really appreciate. One of the things we endeavoured to do in the visits to Cork was to first of all convey it was a safe space for conversation with whatever group we were talking to and that it would be completely confidential, completely anonymised and that we would not be carrying any messages particular to a person or that would make them identifiable, and so on. Sometimes it took a while, but in all cases we were very happy that people opened up. The Deputy is very right in pointing to the tension. This is one of the difficulties and the complexities. None of this is easy, but we have a necessary command-and-control system. That is the very essence of a defence force-----