Paul McAuliffe (Dublin North West, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I like the phrase "low single-digit millions". I think it was used correctly but it is an unusual phrase.

I note the contrasts between those two conversations. The overall amounts on the payments of holidays are very small in the big scheme of the vast majority of the work. I want to accept that. To some extent, Mr. Hill is in a difficult position because the issue of CEO salary is not necessarily of his making and there is sensitivity around that but it comes from the legacy of the sensitivity around that issue. That is why members are so focused on it as an issue. Specifically in this committee, we try to identify where systems fail to allow individuals to gain. Individuals will always try to gain additional income, opportunities and so on and it is the systems that should check against that. If a situation is allowed to happen where employees can cash in rest leave that they are entitled to, then there is an incentive, if they were to take no holidays during the year and cash them in during the year, to give themselves an additional 8% pay increase. That is why the issue of holidays is so important. It is because it is effectively an additional salary. It is not additional holidays, it is additional salary, to a person. That is why I think we focused a lot on it. I wanted to say that to explain it. I think Ms Joyce referred to that in the email correspondence. She spoke about an exceptional nature. Two employees have been referred to here around holiday pay that was exchanged. Are there any other FAI employees who received pay or compensation in lieu of holidays?