Mr. C.J. Gaffney:

It would only be in certain conditions. I could fish for two months and not face those conditions and it would be fine. Then that certain condition would happen again and I would become aware. During the Angelus just before the news, you can see someone with a beam trawler; he is my best friend. His vessel was virtually the same but had a different designer. I let him know that this was happening and he said it could not be the case. She nearly capsized on two occasions. On one occasion the water was on the deck and she seemed absolutely gone; I do not know how she came back. It was from day one really. As I said, it was not all the time. It was only when a certain condition happened that I thought, "Oh my God, this is dangerous."