Mr. John Curran:

My thinking on it is that if a charter is got up and running with the proper measures, which we hope it will, an appeals board will be the last resort. It is imperative to get a good charter such that it will not have to come to the appeals board. The new appeals board is going to be down to the chairman. The chairman has to be, first, knowledgeable about farming and he has to be independent. He has to understand the terms and conditions do not always cover what happens on a farm inspection, such as force majeure and other things that happen on farms. Farmers are under pressure. There could be health issues inside or outside the house. Farmers are getting older. They nearly do not have time to think and a lot of them are under financial pressure. It is essential to get force majeure tied into it but, as in the case of a committee, it will be down to the strength of its members. The chairman has to be strong, there needs to be farmer representation, and maybe the panel should be small in order that people can make decisions quickly.