John Lahart (Dublin South West, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I am a Government politician. It is welcome that the witnesses acknowledged the role of the Minister of State, Deputy Mary Butler, in this. A lot of this policy does not happen by accident, and it happens because we talk to the Minister of State. In any parliamentary party, this kind of stuff comes up again and again, and that is how policy happens in Ireland. I always say to people that when they mention it to me, I raise it with the Minister of State. I keep raising it with her and it becomes policy or there are interventions.