Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 1 February 2024

Select Committee on Foreign Affairs and Trade, and Defence

Estimates for Public Services 2024
Vote 27 - International Co-operation
Vote 28 - Foreign Affairs

Photo of Cathal BerryCathal Berry (Kildare South, Independent) | Oireachtas source

My question is pretty much already answered but it follows the Chair’s question and dovetails nicely. On the European Peace Facility, the Minister said it was €271 million. That is pretty impressive. It is being used for non-lethal aid. My understanding of the mechanism is that a third country buys communications equipment, medical equipment and fuel, gives them to Ukraine and we refund the third country. That is my understanding of how the mechanism works. I would agree with the Chair. Mine-clearing equipment is entirely compatible with our non-lethal categorisation. I want to introduce a potential other category which I would regard as non-lethal. One of the biggest threats to Ukraine at the moment is that these projectiles are flying through the air, that is the one-way attack drones, the cruise missiles, and the ballistic missiles which, by definition, are not alive and have never been alive so you cannot have a lethal effect

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