Mr. Jim Meade:

Yes, it is. There are a couple of things in that regard. There is the next generation ticketing that the NTA is looking at and which will allow all modes of transport to use the same ticketing. Ultimately, you will just tap or scan your phone. That ultimately is where we are trying to get to. Our ticketing system is working but it does not interact with Dublin Bus or Bus Éireann. However, the Leap card currently interacts in certain areas. People in the commuter belt who are coming into Dublin from Sallins or Naas, for example, can tag on at Sallins or Naas and then go onto a bus or Luas with the same Leap card. That is working but it is not countrywide. The NTA has extended this facility to the greater Cork area recently; there is now a Leap card system in Cork. However, you cannot tag on at Heuston Station and go to Thurles.