Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 18 January 2024

Public Accounts Committee

Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Social Insurance Fund 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 13 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 14 - Ex gratia Payments of €1.4 million to Social Welfare Branch Managers
Chapter 15 - Raising Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 16 - Recovery of Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 17 - Actuarial Review of the Social Insurance Fund

9:30 am

Mr. John McKeon:

I understand the confusion. I was confused myself and it took a couple of readings to figure it out. This is the situation as I understand it. Revenue will have to tell the committee whether it treats the person as an employer.

My understanding is that the grant is paid to the individual household. That household engages the tutor on a self-employed basis. For convenience reasons, as I said before, the payment is made directly to the tutor via the PAYE system. There is a reconciliation with Revenue at the end of the year to account for the tutor's payment on a self-employed basis. That is my understanding. While it works through the schedule E PAYE system, when it comes to reconciling the person's tax affairs, they are treated as self-employed. There is a collection mechanism which is used as if they are employed but, ultimately, for their tax affairs, they are still treated this way. That is my understanding.

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