Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 18 January 2024

Public Accounts Committee

Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Social Insurance Fund 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 13 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 14 - Ex gratia Payments of €1.4 million to Social Welfare Branch Managers
Chapter 15 - Raising Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 16 - Recovery of Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 17 - Actuarial Review of the Social Insurance Fund

9:30 am

Mr. John McKeon:

I cannot account for Revenue. I think the chair of Revenue will be here next week. My understanding is that Revenue operates the same way we do. The decision that was taken at that time, which is what I referred to earlier on, to look at workers in the courier sector, established the criteria and the five tests that would be used. It did not establish the outcome of the application of those tests for everybody. It established the criteria. I understand that one of the primary advocates of the counterview, as the Deputy put it, on appeal, was determined to be an employee. It established the criteria. It did not establish the outcome. The social partners agreed at the time to the criteria which came from that review, which was based on the application and consideration of a number of cases from the courier sector plus a consideration of the case law up to that point in time. The criteria were established. It did not determine the outcome. Each case is still dealt with individually if that is what the worker wants.

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