Mr. Jason Fleming:

I have another question. Have departmental officials been over to Scotland? Are they dealing with the Scottish department to see what checks are being done? We have not been told what checks are being done on the Scottish side. We have not been through that. A major point here is that Scotland is outside the EU. It is fine to say certificates are coming in with the consignments but we are dealing with a country that is outside the EU. I have one other point. Some €30 million for the forestry sector has gone back to the Exchequer unspent over the past couple of years. That €30 million should have been spent in the forestry sector to look after the ash dieback farmers, to get more staff into the Department and to get licences out where we need them. There should be one licence from the very beginning to the very end. There should not be this messing about in having to apply for licences to put in roads, to thin forestry and so on going down the line. If €30 million is multiplied by four or five years, what we are left with would go a long way towards sorting out the ash dieback problem.