Mr. Brian Dillon:

We are now working on a very exciting project in Limerick city, beginning in Limerick county. We are talking about what is called a camp. There are not too many left in Ireland. We have had one of the best architects. We have been very lucky to work with someone who is brilliant with design and determining what things will look like in the future. Some of the notions are very simple. We are saying that, instead of hiding the concept, we want to consider ways of designing to promote it and consider the damage that has been done by taking away people's right to travel and denying nomadism. It is a matter of asking how it can be reflected in a camp. Travellers are telling us "camp" is the word they want. Is a halting site somewhere you have to halt? In a sense, the phrase is synonymous with "This is where you are now because you cannot move". People know the conditions anyway. I do not think we have to tell anybody here how conditions on halting sites have deteriorated across Ireland.

Most of what we do in those situations involves going in and talking on a family-by-family basis. In no case has there been one single solution. People have choices. Some people do not want to be there. However, for those who want to be there, we work with them on the design.