Mr. Sean Coughlan:

Can I come back to the Deputy? The evidence on this is quite clear. Dr. Sue Brotherstone and Dr. Coffey in the UK have also published a paper on the advantages of including TB resistance in the index. The bottom line is that, for example, in the 1980s, if we go back to the data, we had a bull that was heavily used. You have bulls and you are trying to get those bulls to breed daughters that will be resistant to disease. It could be lameness. It could be-----