Mr. Jonathan Hill:

KOSI looked at approximately 60 recommendations that, as it described it, were not embedded in the context of the 163 recommendations. It was normal for KOSI to come in and look at the various recommendations. I was aware a conversation was happening in respect of MOU 35 but I was not aware of the detail of the conversation. As I stated, I was not part of that process. It was three other executives, the chair and the chair of the executive performance and remuneration committee, EPRCO.