Ms Anne Stewart:

As I mentioned earlier, we work very closely with all those agencies. We have our key account managers who work closely with them to determine their usage of those frameworks. We monitor the spend going through them. We constantly work with them to change the depth of the scope of all those arrangements. We work that through the executive. We also work it through the interim procurement reform board. It is something we literally work on every day to try to improve the usage. However, we rely on the HSE to bring its section 38 and section 39 agencies in line, just as we would do with the Department of Education to get it to bring all the colleges and schools in line. The same applies with local authorities to make sure they do the same. I am not going to sit here and say it is not challenging. It is extremely challenging.