Professor Desmond O'Neill:

What we see is what we call “normative conformity”, whereby standards slip around providing adequate and appropriate care. The members of the committee heard about some of this from New Zealand yesterday. People will feel that because it is there, somebody should be doing it. Then we see slippage in providing appropriate care.

The language I use is the language used in the ethics literature. What we need to bring to this arena is an informed debate where we use the language that is common and procedurally used. When we hear that the language is offensive, certainly in debating and other circles, we are concerned that people are trying to stifle the actual language of ethics journals, research and positioning as it is. If The Lancet, which is a broad-based and general journal, one of the top journals in the world, talks about preventing healers from becoming killers, that is what it is.