Éamon Ó Cuív (Galway West, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I mean that the Minister should know where she is trying to get to and she will get there over time, by adjusting schemes like means-testing, the jobseeker's allowance, the working family payment, etc. We should get there that way, rather than in a big bang where we eliminate the old system and some day bring in a basic income system or whatever.