Éamon Ó Cuív (Galway West, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

It is proportionate to €64 out of €25,000. If you had €25,000 it would be like spending €64. If you start talking about billions, it is impossible for people to grasp the proportionality in question. As the Minister knows, no more than myself, if you come up with a saving or expenditure in a Department of €1 million, it does not save any money. It is very small. When you take €25 billion and then €64 million, it is not that big an amount of money.