Mr. Bernard Gloster:

To be fair to my colleagues in community care as well as acute care, I do not know who we would say would or would not engage. I think people to genuinely do this and work hard at it, but the systems and processes they work in restrict it. When I came into this post in March, I introduced temporary measures. All the hospital CEOs and chief officers in community care now report directly in a forum to me every three weeks and we have very robust debates. In the case of Senator Conway's area, the mid-west, come 1 March, there will be one regional executive officer with full authority and responsibility for the whole region to bring all the services together and integrate all these processes. I am in the middle of this recruitment.