Marc Ó Cathasaigh (Waterford, Green Party) | Oireachtas source

How we fill the bucket is one part of the equation, but how people draw from it will be critical. Ms Curran mentioned Pakistan, for example. Under some metrics, Pakistan might not be considered a least-developed country. It is certainly not considered a small island developing state. I cannot remember who it was, but someone said that a loss and damage facility that did not include Pakistan was no loss and damage facility at all. What do we need to see on the other side of the equation in terms of people’s ability to access the loss and damage facility so as to ensure that we are addressing the human rights necessity while also recognising the additional needs of least-developed countries and small island developing states and that we balance these requirements against countries that are further along the development pathway?

Places, such as the Bahamas, which are hit by a hurricane, which has been intensified by the heat of the water of the Caribbean, might be further along the development pathway, or, at least, they were before the hurricane hit. How are we going to balance those competing needs for whatever has been contributed to the fund and how countries can draw down from that fund? What should we strive for in COP28 to strike a balance?