Martin Browne (Tipperary, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I am looking at one section here:

It is the Ombudsman for Children’s opinion that the imposition of sanctions (and we are assuming it is a financial sanction that would be used) on Tusla when they are found to be non-compliant might form a barrier to the efforts to reach compliant levels. It could also have a chilling effect on innovation and trying new ideas. The fear of staff, or a service, around being penalised financially for a non-compliant finding when it may be due to a systemic issue or inappropriate funding from the Government, may hamper progress and possibly negatively impact on recruitment. Therefore, the Ombudsman for Children does not believe it is appropriate to change the legislation to allow HIQA impose sanctions.

Is Deputy O'Donoghue coming in on that?