Michael Moynihan (Cork North West, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

-----because they are so frustrated with the culture and the attitude in the HSE and the various schemes on which they work. These therapists want to see three, four or five patients, including kids, and the next thing is, somebody tells them not to show colleagues up. They are only allowed to see three patients a day, whereas in the private sector, they would have seen ten. Can that attitude be rooted out? I have experience of discussing it with an awful lot of OTs and speech and language therapists and they say the culture within the HSE is to do as little as possible in terms of seeing kids. We need to know where the challenges are there. Unfortunately, I cannot stay for the answers. I would love to because there are many interesting questions. It is a challenging service that both Tusla and the HSE provide. We look forward to their engagement but we are here to challenge on behalf of people with disabilities and to try to make the system better. I thank one and all and adjourn the meeting until next Wednesday.