Mr. David Walsh:

The Senator mentioned a figure of more than €5 million that Tusla spends on services for children you might reasonably expect the HSE to provide. There are probably many more millions Tusla spends on other things that, if you were starting from scratch, you might say was HSE-type of expenditure but I am glad Tusla does provide the service. I am sorry the HSE does not have the capacity to provide those inputs directly. The HSE does end up purchasing quite an amount of service from the private system to support children in our orbit. I might ask Mr. O'Regan to comment on the other issues relating to the interaction from the ground up, which was outlined pretty clearly by Ms Murphy, and how we approach those things.