Pearse Doherty (Donegal, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

Mr. Moloney talks about financial risk. That is recognised in most plans, especially in a Department or agency of this size. That is not what Bernard Gloster is talking about. He is saying he is going to present a plan with a built-in deficit and that this will be first time he can remember that happening. He is saying that, with the money Mr. Moloney's Department has provided, it is not possible for him, as head of the HSE, to provide services to the public in a safe way and that he is therefore going to build a deficit into the plan because the Department has decided not to provide him with the money required.

I did not even get into the reasons. There is a political rationale for why this happened but I am not even getting into it. That is the point Bernard Gloster is making. In his time, has Mr. Moloney seen an in-built deficit in the HSE service plan?