Pearse Doherty (Donegal, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I want to briefly raise a couple of issues. Earlier on when I was questioning the level of the shortfall this year, Mr. Moloney said that the HSE or the Department are talking in accrual and cash terms. Let us park the jargon. The numbers are well established in the media, while the Department may not accept them at the minute. The HSE is very clear that the overrun this year is in the region of €1.5 billion. That is on an accrual basis. On a cash basis, that is €1.1 billion this year.