John McGuinness (Carlow-Kilkenny, Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I do not want to get into this discussion again in the sense of hearing comments such as "I am not sure" and "It is an operational matter for them". Mr. Dormer is managing his Department and the funding that it allocates. He spends a lot of time with this budget oversight group. He should know whether the HSE has a fully integrated management system in place. Mr. Dormer tells me that it has not but it is working on it. That is okay. That is a straight answer. How then can he rely on the various monthly financial performance reports, for example? Why would he rely on them? Are they manual reports? Do they come in from each hospital?