Mr. Eoin Dormer:

It is fair to say, as is evident from the minutes, that pressures on non-pay costs were beginning to emerge and there was a discussion on that. With regard to the detail of the non-pay cost base and what drives it, including what are the procurement arrangements across the variety of hospitals in particular, that level of detail is pretty complex. As the Secretary General has said, there is still a good bit of work to do to unpack all that. We were made aware of trends but we have not yet received all of the detailed data underpinning that, which in fairness to colleagues in the HSE are very complicated.