Mr. David Moloney:

In terms of the scale of difference, the reality is that it is not that unusual for Departments to ask for much larger numbers than what is proposed. The difference of €1.3 billion reflects the scale of the health budget. It is a huge proportion of Government spending and equates to the largest proportion of government spending in the EU. Obviously, it has a big impact. I do not have the comparison on ELS alone but, in terms of core asks, the core ask of the Department of Health, which is ELS and new measures, is 12%-----