Mr Ken Stockil:

I agree with what Mr. Healy said in that while there has been a change how businesses perceive this challenge, there is still a huge gap in how they translate that into action. We have therefore tried to distil down a number of very simple first steps for these companies to engage them in programmes, such as the sustainability leaders programme. There, we sit down with each company and look at the sustainable development goals, SDGs, and what is material for their business, because ultimately companies want to build the capability to compete better. We speak to that and give them a framework whereby they can translate this ambition to take action on climate into practical steps that will benefit their business. The Deputy is right; this is the most challenging step in the whole process. It is crucial to ensure that transition and conversation is simple and there are clearly identifiable benefits for the companies at the end of it. That is why the sustainability leaders programme has proven so popular. We are rolling that programme out with the other agencies and are starting to customise it for particular sectors. If we can generate that initial engagement and appreciation of the benefits of taking action on climate and sustainability, the rest will flow from that. The companies then can move forward with their decarbonisation strategy, water shortage strategy and biodiversity strategy. However, that first engagement is crucial and that is why we have spent a lot of time investing in that particular step.