Mr. Seamus McCarthy:

It is impossible for us to do that but they should all be audited independently and there should be audit reports. We have reported previously on the governance arrangements in place in the HSE in terms of its oversight of what is happening in those organisations from a governance point of view but also from a funding, sustainability and service delivery point of view. Every year, the HSE explains the system that is place in the statement on internal control. That gives you an "in" with the HSE regarding that. The Deputy's point is probably more strategic or possibly at a higher level.